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Tool and A Perfect Circle frontman Maynard James Keenan recently appeared on "The Joe Rogan Experience," a podcast starring Fear Factor host Joe Rogan. Keenan spoke at length about his winemaking business in northern Arizona, replying when Rogan asked how one starts a vineyard, "You join the military, you get out of the military, you form a band, make a million dollars, you go dump that million dollars into a f***ing black hole in the middle of nowhere, and then go, 'Okay, that was the wrong hole.'"
Keenan continued, "Before you put anything in the ground, figure out what grape might work there. I had to learn the hard way. When you put the vine in the ground, you don't know. If it sticks around the next year, at least you've got that part, it actually grew. Then you've got to figure out if it's gonna get to the point where you can actually to train it, to start setting fruit on it."

Keenan told us that the process -- which can take years -- will eventually pay off: "Once it's established, it's jobs for 50 families for the next 500 years. Once we have kind of set, literally and figuratively, established roots there with this industry, it's gonna expand into many, many families and a lot of stability for the area, and it's something that you can't move to some other country and outsource it. It's something that's very specific to your place."

Keenan also spoke briefly about A Perfect Circle during the interview, saying that there are no solid plans at the moment for the group to record or tour.

As for Tool, the other three members of the group are currently working on music for the band's fifth studio album, but there is no timetable yet for recording or releasing it.

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